Let me get things together on my side before I share too much about the Lamorinda tree. (See more on this from a paper by Peter A. Fuerte would work here since its bloom season is long and overlaps well with these two varieties. If the tree turns out to be a winner in your yard too, then eventually we can all benefit from the discovery. Yet Pinkerton, Mexicola, Bacon, Jim Lamb, Wurtz and Reed do well here. Our water on the Mesa is exceptionally hard, and Im wondering if perhaps we should try a Lamb or Reed instead, or how salt tolerant a Fuerte is? The only published information about the bloom seasons of avocado varieties that I know of is about common commercial varieties. No one even the owner knows what variety it is, but there is a lot of fruits on it. Were trying to get avocados all year round with varieties weve tried and like. Unfortunately, people here seldom grow avocados, it is just not in our culture which is strange, because people do eat avocados a lot, and you find them in every supermarket. for avocados. Thank you for your great thoughts on Avos! Hi Greg, Avocados have been grown in neighboring Spain for a very long time, and I know there are nurseries there. At my place Gwen seems to be doing fine in the heat but it is getting some afternoon shade from a large live oak. Variety: Flower Type: Taste (subjective) Fruit Size: Fruit Color: Fruit Shape: Skin: Oil % Fruit Season (Irvine) Tree Size: Remarks: Anaheim: A: good: 18-32 oz: green . At best, carrying a super heavy crop load usually means that the following years crop will be very light. What a find. Thank you for sharing this. Im in a hot area of Bay Area northern Ca. Which town or area are you in? I tried it 2 days in row. The good news is that I know trees there that have had them for years, have never been treated for them, and the trees still produce well. Both Bacon and Fuerte will be ready to pick in winter, before GEM. Florida's avocado trees grow to be between 30 and 65 feet tall. I like the combination of Pinkerton and Lamb; that makes a lot of sense in terms of tree size and complementary seasons. In my yard, Reeds start to taste good as early as May, and can go through September. Lambs are also highly productive, taste very good, and mature in summer into fall. I think Ill pick a few avocados that you mentioned (knowing me Ill get to the store and come back with seven) Call me crazy but I just ordered 10 thermometers that record the max/min temp on my property. The global Hass Avocado market is projected to reach USD million by 2028 from an estimated USD million in 2022, at a CAGR of Percent during 2023 and 2028. TREE SIZES. In case you didnt know, Im also in Ramona. Thought you and others might be interested in knowing that Gwen avocados are currently available at Elis Farmstand in Fallbrook. In fact, Hass also produces more reliably than Fuerte in most places. Kona Sharwil Avocado. . You might find this answer boring, in which case Id be willing to bet that you dont already have a Hass tree in your yard. Ive never had a tree-matured Sir Prize. What are your thoughts on a Sharwil Tree? The trees were 15 gal and difficult to keep hydrated the first summer(you forget all the roots are contained in the pot size). Sir-Prize is a very good avocado but I dont think its quite as good as those three, especially for your situation since its harvest season is only a little before Hass and overlapping with Hass. How does your Reed do through Sylmar summers? Elizabeth, 27. I will tell you later how my adventure is going! Just a couple days ago, I visited the largest organic avocado orchard in California, and they recently planted a lot of Sharwil trees. Yes, Atkins is a great source of uncommon avocado varieties. Thats a good question. For example, GEM (and some other varieties) on Dusa is a poor performer if the soil pH is high. Its season should complement the GEM well, and the growing pattern shouldnt be too intrusive. Should you buy a big or small avocado tree? If you only eat half, that's 1.3 grams of net carbs. I have been in contact with them for Carmen, GEM and Ettinger trees and late January was told to ask later in April for the trees. Its nearly impossible, unfortunately. Hass has the wonderful ability to mature its fruit and then hold them on the tree for many months, waiting for you to pick them. Thanks. Elevated a 12 foot circle 8 inches with landscape stones and filled with wood chips. Ive heard people say that too, but Ive never found evidence for it. Im also always unsure what Im going to find at these types of stores, which is why I always have a look when Im shopping there. Maybe I should dig a 5th hole. Maybe that would work. I use foam or bubble insulation to wrap the trunks of my baby trees their first winter. Its been since May since I communicated with you. So keep that in mind. Looks like my own graft will take. Great and very informative information for us who are interested in Avocado farming.However I need more information on how I could distinguish different Avocado trees, for instance I understand that Hass avocado trees are ever green. As good as some other avocados are, nothing pleases me quite as much as eating a high quality Fuerte. Jan Boyce Avocado. In your climate, dangerous heat in spring and early summer just doesnt happen. But now with youtube it has been easier to see what can be grown up here. Ive found a Gem and a Carmen Hass semi-locally and am torn about which to plant! Please keep it up. Nevertheless, even compared to other trees the same size, Holiday is usually later and lighter in production. If I had the space for only one avocado tree, I would plant a Hass. Option 2: Sir Prize. It makes me more confident that I can keep an avocado alive and healthy enough to bear fruit someday. (Not that Pinkerton avocados arent delicious though. I hope you get a chance to plant a real avocado tree or three this spring. Pollinators for the Avocado - Sharwill (B) Cross pollinate with one of these varieties for fruit set Avocado - Hass (A) $ 54.00 ($54.00-$79.00 choose a size) Most popular variety due to both its superior taste and excellent keeping qualities. I dont have extensive room for so many trees through which is why I want to graft (actually its that my wife will kill me if I try to plant more than 3 avocado trees). by Laurie Meadows. Thanks for your super helpful website! Also, what are your thoughts on a multi-variety grafted tree? The Florida avocado. When I walk around my neighborhood here in Sylmar, Its amazing how most people abuse their avocado trees by having their gardeners rake up those leaves as soon as they hit the ground. Multi-grafted avocado trees can work. The heat was overwhelming (60 consecutive tropical nights, hosepipe ban, more than 100 towns in France had no drinking water). LOL! Two, get a combination of hardier varieties and others like Hass, Reed, GEM, etc. But I will say that it is definitely precocious in my yard. This is finally my update. GEM could do well for you, as could just about any other variety. ), If I had to choose a pair for your location, I think Id try the combination of Pinkerton and Gwen or Reed. Kona Sharwil.wow! Obviously the tree would look very weird, but would likely be weak or want to fall to one side or maybe the vigorous variety would pull more nutrients and starve the less vigorous variety. ), (See more about Fuerte in my post, The Fuerte avocado tree: a profile.). Pinkerton Avocado. Thanks again! As for heat-tolerant avocado varieties, I wrote a post about that some years back and Ill be updating it soon: https://gregalder.com/yardposts/heat-tolerance-of-avocado-varieties/. The flesh is very oily, rich and creamy tasting. They had to prune three times per year, and still the production had declined since year nine. AvoSeedo Avocado Tree Growing Kit, Green, Practical Gifts for Women, Mom, Sister & Best Friend, Plant Indoors with Novelty Pit Grower Boat & Kitchen Garden Seed Starter 6,659 $9.96 $ 9 . Kona Sharwil Avocado 2.0 - The Re-DO - Avocado Talk 1,184 views Feb 6, 2022 50 Dislike Share ReEngineeredMemories 582 subscribers Finally got the Kona in the ground as of today 2/6/22.. After some pool renovations which sent torrents of pool water into the avo area two of the trees are completely dead. The best months for planting are typically March through June, depending on where you live. Thank you, Elizabeth. One of them doesnt deliver to France. Maybe I shouldnt have put Reed in that list, but Reed isnt as vigorous as some other varieties such as Bacon, Fuerte, or Hass. Other A-type avocados that are naturally on the relatively small side and produce well and are good eating include: Pinkerton, Lamb, Reed, and Gwen. The flesh itself has a mild taste and is quite watery. That day gave me a chance to compare the heat tolerance of multiple varieties: https://gregalder.com/yardposts/heat-tolerance-of-avocado-varieties/. I hope that in a few years I can have more avocado than I can eat! Good luck with the Reed. Trees will be on south facing slope w full sun. Kona Sharwil avocado was introduced in Australia and is now a major commercial variety in Hawaii. But I would add them only after planting this trio. If you live in a cooler area I think it calls for some adjusting. or either OK? Gwen isnt the toughest of my avocado trees, for sure. As you get closer to the ocean and farther north, the Reed season gets later and longer because of the cooler temps. I really appreciate reading your expert advice and opinion about your experiences. Started producing at 3? Historic photo of Mr. and Mrs. Rudolph Hass in front of an avocado tree We can all hope, cant we? This is one of the "classic" avocados. Hi Greg, But its good to remember that any trees shape can be affected somewhat by whats growing around it and where its getting sun. Taste Ive read is great. The fruit must be of good size. Hi David, The two main differences between Bacon and Fuerte are that Fuerte tastes better but Bacon is more productive. I have downscaled a bit.and now I have just 20 trees and 16 varieties. It will be in the first week of October. Funny thing is that Hass was once an outsider. I listen for the sound of a chainsaw. The Gem is covered with avos, the other two have about 5 or six each. One, get only the hardier varieties, such as Fuerte, Bacon, Zutano, or Puebla. Our USDA certified Avocado fruit are medium to large sized pear-shaped with a small seed (~74% flesh), higher oil content than Hass (28% compared to 21%), and a green rough skin that is soft to the touch when ripe. I also dont know anything about growing avocados in France, but Ill do my best to help you get started. My Reed, as well as those I know nearby, does relatively well. I went to Fallbrook and paid Eli a visit, and I came back with a Reed, a Sirprize, and a GEM. Cliff. If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. Two months ago my Nabal (in SoCal) was also developing a lot of yellow leaves with brown veins, and falling off. Our greenhouse has 14ft ceilings. Mites like a dusty leaf surface. 2 years old Fuerte on unknown seedling Then why isnt Fuerte my top choice? About five years ago it started to get bad infestations of mites, it then started to get cancors on the large branches and trunk that had a white powder around the edges. The main reason Id choose Reed is that its harvest season complements the Hass. The Nabal trees I know are not so wide spreading like a Fuerte, and neither are they more upright like a Bacon can be. Lamb, Reed, Pinkerton (and Grande) seem to be the happiest and healthiest. Come to think of it, Id say Nabal fruits taste a tad richer than Reed, actually. by Greg Alder | Mar 23, 2018 | Avocados | 167 comments. We will also compliment with other varieties to have ripe fruit all year, (varieties including malama, yamagata, ota, murashiga, kahaluu, fujikawa), for value added products. Note that Im really tentative about saying this. Wish Id read something like this a few years ago. Thank you for your response and info. I would still choose Hass as my single tree in Van Nuys, and Reed should do well there too. See: https://gregalder.com/yardposts/how-to-plant-and-stake-an-avocado-tree/. Would you recommend Carmen Hass and GEM? Sorry that I bad-mouthed Zutano in the comment above. I know Sylmar, and I would guess that my neighborhood is slightly milder than yours even though my area is also on the hot side in summer and chilly side in winter, as far as most of Southern California goes. What do you think, is it overkill to have two Hass trees? I wish I knew your yard in particular because there are always various microclimates within Sunset Zones and city limits, but unless youve got an unusually low and cold spot then these varieties should do fine. I havent seen you comment on Sirprize. I found one at a small nursery in south county and planted it in between the 2 existing trees. Over the past 2 weeks sheltering in place, Im noticing lots of small fruit starting. And if its a tiny tree youre after, then it doesnt get much smaller than Holiday (XX3). For example, they had Hass planted at 10 feet by 10 feet in 2004, but just topworked that block this spring, 15 years later, because it had become too costly to manage. Which basically means it may be grafted on just anything. Better now than never. When you put a thick layer of tree trimmings down, do you turn them to allow air to circulate? After watching your wonderful Fuerte tree video I was inspired and replaced my young Ettinger for the real thing besides Fuerte might be my personal favorite flavor probably because I remember the taste of Fuerte guacamole as a kid. Hi! Its green-skinned fruits weigh 8 to 20 oz and mature in winter and spring. Im glad you found your Reed there! I am looking for something to pair with Hass for extended season and help in pollination. Heres a link to Miramars offerings: https://www.sandiego.gov/environmental-services/miramar/greenery/cmw#products. Pinkerton seems to never drop fruit in the heat. Yes, you can definitely graft several varieties onto one tree. Youd likely still have a window with no fruit, or no great fruit, sometime in fall. What varieties did you get and on what rootstocks? Hass avocado is perhaps one of the most famous avocado types and considered by many to be the best.The flavour is quite intense and the flesh is very creamy, perfect for guacamole.. Until the 1930s, Fuerte was the best-known variety in the USA, until Rudolf Hass, a green fingered postman, planted some avocado seeds for a small plantation.Hass then patented the tree he chose and it was later . Two, how many people are you feeding? 2. Thank you! I would be happy to share with you if you are interested. I do know MacArthur avocados. Sixty percent shade cloth over the trees can work as long as its only over the top (not wrapping the entire tree) and more than a few inches higher than the tree (not almost touching the top leaves). Lots of great Hass are grown in nearby Morro Bay. So even though I had anticipated buying for a few months, it seems that the winter avocado is more expensive, historically. It means a lot to me! Until then, let me say that every one of the varieties you mentioned has great tasting fruit (except that Ive never eaten Green Gold so cant comment with experience on that one). Maybe not the best. Could you make a suggestion and where I may obtain that tree. In some parts of our garden, good rich garden soil was added in big quantities.]. Can you please tell me which avocado orchard you visited in California? I appreciate all the documentation! There are lots of other very good avocado varieties. The Sir Prize avocado is defined primarily by a distinctive ridge along one side which becomes less noticeable when the fruit ripens. We had a hass 4 years back that sun burned to death. I grew up against the same mountains, but out in Glendora, and Bacons do great there. I have to do that with my avocados here in Sunset Zone 20 too. Averages are higher in the winter, when I would be at a shortage if I were to get a Reed. Once you exclude the fiber, a whole avocado is simply 2.6 grams of net carbs. High oil content - Sharwil and Hass both >25% oil. Today, the 'Hass' accounts for about 80 percent of all avocados consumed in the entire world. One of my Hass is still a baby, so I was considering taking it out and putting the Reed in its place. Hi Martins, Avocados don't ripen while hanging on the tree. I never feel like I have a palate that is refined enough to give a sufficiently florid description. Good questions, all. If the only Hass avocados youve had are from the grocery store, then you have no idea. I dont think youll regret a Hass/Bacon pair unless you dont like the milder taste of Bacon. I counted 51 fruits in this picture. How did the kahaluu taste? The problem with Fuerte is that it tends to grow horizontally so youd have to be vigilant about training it up a stake and pruning as necessary. Id use less dense shade cloth or raise the shade cloth. This will help me determine where i will plant it. Daily 11 Avocado. Or consider 'Lamb Hass,' a similar-size tree, hardy to 26 degrees, bearing 10- to 18-ounce Hass . As I learnt that planting an A-type and a B-type only encreased crops by 20%, I thought it would be smarter to plant a second tree that would be fruiting when Hass does not, allowing me to have avocados almost all year long, as ou describe in your article. The fruit is very similar to the Hass Avocado, except this variety is larger and has a longer shelf life. I havent seen any other Gwens growing in exactly those conditions. I actually removed my small Fuerte to grow thie Lamorinda because my backyard is tiny and with 5 other avos in the ground I already have more than enough on my plate. I could do that! You have me sold on the year-round Hass prospect. It is very good sized, peels easily, acts like it is a semi-dwarf tree, and the fruit is just so good! If you want it to spread very horizontally, Id plant a Fuerte. Such great information for gardening in San Diego! Ive found that 30% shade cloth over the top of young trees is enough unless its over about 105 degrees. Will do. What comes to mind is that Fuerte has a more distinctive flavor. It is very helpful! Thank you so much. Denny. Awesome, Rachael! All of this is very complicated, but very inspiring!!!! I just put down the mulch and leave it be. Thank you for your reply, After doing some research and asking question in my neighborhood the last couple of days, I found out that Im not the only one with this problem. But not about the persea mites. We anticipate that Sharwil avocado consignments from Hawaii to the mainland will total about 180 metric tons per year, equivalent to about one-half of 1 percent of the U.S. supply of non-Hass avocados and to less than one-twentieth of 1 percent of the U.S. supply of all avocado varieties. 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