This guy had been working at the LGS for over a decade and never had an AD or ND, he was the strictest when it came to safety. My trust for Sig stopped after they produced the beloved Sig556xi Russian. I had another thought last night. That being the case, the 320 is a cocked and locked striker-fired gun; However, it only has two safeties, unlike, say, a 1911, which has four: An inertial firing pin, a positive firing-pin locking safety, a manual sear-locking/blocking safety, and a trigger-bar-blocking grip safety. He wasnt aware of it until contacted earlier this week by CBC News and suggested it was relevant in ongoing litigation in the U.S. We look forward to reviewing the incident in discovery in the United States, he said Friday. Every weekend guns blow up running high pressure calibers like 9mm Luger loaded with super fast powders that are meant for low pressure cartridges like .45. Shot about 200 rounds of a variety of ammo (factory and reloads) no problems noted at all. Grow up, you aint all that! I am still waiting for the UPS man (not from the devil but from Sig) I will not hold my breath. Interestingly the barrel looks different. He wanted to see how accurate the gun was, especially after the customer got it back after the voluntary upgrade. The nose of the extractor does appear to be peened slightly, but this may be normal. I was tempted to buy one at one time but no more. You arent a gunfighter, either. It's this doohickey circled in red in the picture. It's a little disappointing because I was a huge fan. On 320 based guns, make sure the ejector has not been bent up or otherwise damaged. Only problem I ever had with my 320 compact was a chipped extractor. Sigs bid was low because they were still pissed after being beat by Beretta in cost. Although if you have the RA, you may also have a pre-paid shipping label. Sometimes in front, straight back, just barely falling out and down, and even to the LEFT. P320 9/357/40 EXTRACTOR ASSEMBLY - CORROSION RESISTANT Replace a worn extractor or get a spare for your P320 with this factory one. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Asking for a friend. I have several thousand of this ammo on hand, and if I were to need to use to defend myself or my family, the gun should handle it. 3. Jim. I lost $150 dumping that gun and Sig instead of acknowledging that it had a problem and calling it a recall, denied all and everything and called it a voluntary upgrade., At my LGS a P320 just went off when one of the guys put it the counter when he set up a target. Fact is most SF carry what they want and the Marine Recon I know very well who has friends in that community told me many in the Navy NSW program still carry the Mk 25, they don want a striker fired pistol that can hydrolock in water. Hammer guns have a half cock notch for a reason. Customer Service can be reached at (603)610-3000 Option 1, from Monday through Friday, 8:30 a.m. through 6:00 p.m. EST. The P320 should be scrapped and SIG Sauer USA should redesign a new pistol around the striker firing mechanism instead of just retrofitting a hammer fired pistol (P250). But when you set a gun down on a table, and the damn thing goes off seconds after you let go, that sounds like a defective gun. All of my kits run fantastic, never a hiccup. Yea, I already have the RA and the Fedex shipping label. Back in 2017, SIG instituted a voluntary upgrade program to replace the original production triggers with new enhanced triggers designed to fix the issue that we and others observed when the pistols were dropped onto hard surfaces. So i finally sent in my 320sc for the upgrade. Tried different ammo? Sig . The fact the ammo didn't bother other guns is irrelevant, since every round is, essentially, unique. SIG is choosing to litigate their problems away. This highly trained Fibbie was doing flips while dancing (breakdancing? Left 2 weeks ago and received and email this mourning that it's on its way back to me. Were not saying that the suits against GLOCK are any more (or less) substantiated than those against SIG. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Upload or insert images from URL. Also make sure you greased the rails and properly lubricated the pistol. If the Ejector is determined to be worn or broken, Sig Sauer recommends it be repaired by: a. Also some sport pistol at 132. 80 rounds later I realize that I cant manually cycle the slide. The rear 1/3rd of the case isfreely able to bloat. ABCs own hired consultant, who appears to have no dog in these fights, asserted that he could find no reasonable explanation for these claims and that he considers the upgraded P320 pistols safe for sale to law enforcement and the public. (chamber area) and checked for spent shell retention. Such being the case, there very well may BE in inherent design flaw in the gun; We shouldnt just cast the thought aside as being beyond consideration and insist on blaming the problem on operator error.. June 20, 2017 in Sig. That's good without those, you'll never get any substantial number of views / subs on youtube. Manual safeties on pistols, hammer and striker fired systems were found necessary as far back as 1900. They admitted their problem and fixed it. By The use of a modified [SIG] P226 holster created an unsafe condition by allowing a foreign object to enter the holster, causing the unintended discharge.. Pity that some of the most common reactions fall into two over simplistic categories: 1. Sent the old kit (as a complete pistol) off to Sig for warranty repair. BrianEnos.com You need to deliberately thumb the Pythons hammer back to get that trigger pull, each and every time. Especially since they farm it out to the lowest bidder. Sometimes it would do the same as the above but it was under the extractor like it should be. I first ran about 100 rounds of brass through the gun, which was cleaned prior to today's range visit. In the case of the 320, lightning is striking the same place an awful lot. SATIN GOLD | Matte TiN. Your previous content has been restored. I brought a box of fiocchi and a box of blazer ammo. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Collette suit, for example, lists 39 such discharges, all but five of which involved law enforcement officers. All chasing that pot of gold at the end of litigation.. Not that big of a stretch when considering the lawyers beating the bushs for clients to add to the lawsuits, and the fact many of them will lose their jobs if its proven to NOT be the gun, but instead negligence on their part. saw the video, doesnt explain how it bypasses striker pin safety. Then either the gun somehow managed to magically clear both the broken tab and foreign body to continue to operate. The thing I hate is getting kicked around! Look at the photos g macposted of the barrel and factory ammo shot in that barrel. It was a huge issue at one point because the company who they outsourced the extractor to went cheap. MIM strikers made in India and put into Sigs. I have been purchasing and using Sig firearms exclusively for over 40 years. Just wanted to share an experience I had with my new X5 in CO. To share the setup, I had Robert Burke do his competition trigger job which feels great; I also have a tungsten guide rod, other than that, the gun is stock. The Sig Sauer P320 Extractor is a Factory OEM Sig Sauer part. SIG just cannot seem to make a striker fired pistol that doesnt have issues. Its also beyond debate that current production Sig quality is drastically inferior to what it once was, particularly the German made pieces. Frankly, I think that ship is the best looking sci-fi ship design ever, with the Excelsior a very close second. I could care but that came at the expense of reliability and safety. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! DND/CAF is not in a position at this stage in its investigation to offer insight into the potential causes because our investigation scope is broader than the technical aspect pertaining to the unintended discharge of the pistol.. Profits over reliability and you end up with junk. We will respect the ongoing investigation and will not offer further comment at this time, Bineau said. Fitting, gauging, and range testing. Both companies, instead, took to pro-gun industry forums to offer a rebuttal, giving no opportunity to answer questions. The hype leading up to the P365 was pretty intense and the LGS sold a bunch of those. Sig Sauer P320 Extractor Spring . From some old posts I read that Sig did an upgrade to these extractor . Thank yall for your input. In 1974 if you bought a Colt 1911, you left the gun store and then immediately took it to your favorite gunsmith and said Make it work it with Super-Vels, please. You cant get away with that today. Powered by Invision Community. A few Warbirds decloaking would make me very nervous if it wasnt sci-fi fantasy. That is totally unacceptable. Sig started out rough, but a lot of agencies have decided that their modular chassis system is the way of the future. Canadas highly-trained counterterrorism force, JTF-2, is the only military unit with the SIG P320 in its inventory right now. TTAG talked to Bagnell, who told us that he wants it to be known that he is not anti-gun and doesnt want to see more gun control laws in this country. BAM. Now when you lose your grip on lawn mowers or snow blowers they will not keep travelling foreword all by themselves. The Defiant regardless of who is the captain. The guide rod is cheap and breaks, it has rotten front sights! converted to the Glock denomination, but are now screaming that the P320 is Too new, not worked out! Thanks. Aint been nothing but problems since the military dropped the 1911, what was it 85 year of trusted service? I removed the extractor assembly and cleaned it thoroughly. Thats why NY demanded the NY Trigger be installed on Glocks before theyd buy them. In this video review, Iraqveteran8888 reviews the P365 . After all, there are limits on complying with Rule 2 and even Rule 3, because a gun muzzle is ALWAYS covering something, somewhere, and ALWAYS knowing what lies beyondperhaps FAR beyonda possible target is an impossibility. The best take on this subject is by the author himself: this is about slime lawyers looking to build a national narrative and get a few wins in, so they can more easily get the next win and the next one, the next one and so on. Oh, if you another thread reader asking Wheres the Sig/Glock bashing? Problem persisted. Once word of that got out there was an avalanche of sexual harassment lawsuits against Fox news. Theyve gotten tons of contracts because the gun is cheap, cheap, cheap to make. The American manufacturer of the new pistols belonging to Canadas special forces claims the soldier wounded in an accidental discharge last fall was using the wrong holster for the weapon. Thanks for the replies guys and gals. In 2020, the agent, who is a former marine, was doing his routine training with the P320. My gun just went off! But just the same- a gun going off from momentum? NO, SIG has a problem that they would rather fight in court. Whats the difference between a $600 Sig and a $300 Taurus? Google Keith Slatowski, is he lying also? Just because someone shoots hyper-unrealistic 3 gun competition, subscribes to Recoil magazine and routinely watches their fave rave YouTube cult of personality channel shill for the latest company that paid him off doesnt make them a [emailprotected]$$. At rest, cocked, it may very well have enough oomph to set some primers off. Would you? Maybe. Zimmerman said he is confident his plaintiffs will prevail in the lawsuit filed this week. One of the officers a few years ago was carrying his P320 in a P226 holster that he took a Dremel to make the P320 fit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsu6WsSQ2_g. I would trust the intelligence of a Gorilla in a zoo before any one in the Far Right. Well I jumped in bed with ma and pa , told them that the devil was in Arkansas. Thats the same. Slide has cycled all of the way back and attempts to strip the next round from the magazine. But SIG Sauer said it has rectified the issue with upgrades, including one made for the U.S. military which court documents, filed as part of one of the lawsuits, show resulted in substantial changes to the weapons internal design. I would just order a new extractor and related components and try the gun again. Its hard to say yet but with anything follow the basic safety rules. But Im observant enough to see the same voices that said in 1985 that This new fangled Glock is a just a plastic toy! I am also very much a DS9 fan, best series overall. Clear editor. Hey, Im glad theres somethings we agree on! Hello perpetrators, Lee Paige is clearly the gift that keeps on giving though our buddy Hunter Biden is a close second! The Sig P320 XTen is one of few P320's that are in a different caliber, and the only 10mm Auto. Seems a bit apologetic to me. The federal government intends to order up to 20,000 pistols for the military to replace its Second World War-era Browning Hi-Power handguns in a project that could be worth up to $50 million. I've heard a couple of cases of this. ! only reveals ones immature emotional attachment to an inanimate object, which reveals a pretty childish worldview. No you haters are not smarter than the US military, who tested the P320 far more than your favorite YouTuber ever did. The same should hold true for the insane marketing of pistols like the totally unsafe Glock. Add to Cart. Glocks have gone off when people attempted to holster them and after they have holstered them, some times way later after holstering them like the fellow that got into his pickup truck. I mean hey, yelling about firearms preferences online is no more productive than discussing nerdy Star Trek stuff, is it? But I am pretty confident they will not be of much support with using steel cased ammo, but it never hurts to ask. 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